Camera Club

Last night I went to my weekly camera club meeting.  We had some guest speakers and it was supposed to be inspirational.  Unfortunately for me it was the exact opposite.  *sigh*  These people are apparently some of the best photographers in the UK.  They win loads and loads of competitions.  They’re HEAVY photoshop users.  It was all too airy fairy for me.  Tooo processed.  There was no denying that some of their photos were fantastic but in the end you realize that they’re just fake.  Now don’t get me wrong I like photoshop.  It can help make a good photo better.  I just felt that they’re winning awards w/ photoART not photography.  If you take a photograph of a couple dancing the tango in Barcelona and pop them into a photograph of an alley in Turin is that photograpy?  If you don’t like the fact that the man was walking a certain direction and you flip him around and remove any distracting objects and and and.  When do you stop and when does it cross the line into photoart?  Oh well it was an interesting presentation and it’s good to know what you’re up against when you enter competitions.  I will be entering two photos in January.

I also met Byrney for lunch and afterwards we took some photos of the kids in her classic mini.  I had a look in mind but didn’t pull it off!  The kids had a blast though!!  This one if my favorite.  I’ll have to try it again- this time with his reflection in focus!!

PS: I know that I sound bitter and negative.  I’m not really I just didn’t think that the presentation really added anything to my life.  I joined the club in order to better myself and I don’t think last night did that.  I’m just a bit dissapointed.


  1. November 25, 2008 /

    I felt the same way when I saw some of the other photographers versions of good photos. The PS is as clear as daylight to me!
    But then again, they do say that you can manipulate in PS as much as you used to be able to do in dark rooms with film, and apparently that was quite a bit.

  2. guilty noodles
    November 25, 2008 /

    Hmmm… that’s a hard one. I’ve never gotten into using photoshop, but I did manipulate photos in the darkroom. I’ve never removed objects or flipped the direction of people. I suppose I’m rather old school that way. I guess if you look at their approach as another medium to express themselves, it’s almost the equivalent of a painter bringing additional mediums into their work.

    But I understand, as I would be rather upset too. Sometimes, I like things done a certain way and prefer not to see it in a different light.

  3. Lindy
    November 25, 2008 /

    I know there is a huge debate out there w/ Photoshop. I think my main issue with the presentation was that they sounded as if they stopped looking for the ‘perfect’ shot. Why go through all the trouble when they can just photoshop the image they want. So a tango here, an alley there- crop, paste, blur, saturate the colors here/there. Whammo thank you mammo for the awards and accolades, aren’t I just a fantabulous photographer! I’m thinking uuuh no you’re just a fantastic photoshopper! It just left a bad taste in my mouth. I’m probably naive!

  4. SCM
    November 25, 2008 /

    I’ve got Photoshop but never actually got round to installing it.
    I prefer photos that haven’t been fiddled with as then I can admire the talent and wish I could take photos like that.
    Photoshopping is an artform by itself and pics done that way are fine – just don’t try passing it off as a photo.
    There’s a bloke on flickr who plays with images and some are amazing. I can’t remember exactly what he does but at least he’s honest and says he has done stuff.

  5. November 25, 2008 /

    I agree! That’s what I like about your photo’s is that it’s what was there when you took it. I also see PS as someone good with computers not a good photographer. I would also feel a bit conned if it was a photography club meeting….

  6. Suburban Mum
    November 25, 2008 /

    I agree. As much as I love Photoshop, it’s not photography. I never understand why people apologise when a picture is “sooc” as though it can always be improved upon with technology. I’d rather learn the art of taking a good photo (and I have a helluva lot to learn!).

  7. Rachel
    November 26, 2008 /

    Amen. Amen. Amen! It seems hardly anyone focuses on acquiring the skills to get fabulous sooc shots. I love photoshop, it’s a great tool, but it shouldn’t replace the art of photography. When you cut and splice and paste the heck out of it, it’s pretty much just graphic design by then.

  8. November 26, 2008 /

    Great post. I think that at some point it certainly becomes graphic art instead of photography. or at least a combination of both.

    I do think that PS has it’s place in digital photography, as digital photos have their short comings compared to film. I do not personally think that a jpeg straight out of the camera is all that much more REAL, than one taken RAW and carefully adjusted in PS. Either I am making the decisions regarding sharpening, color and contrast or a preset in the camera is. KWIM?

    As for the stuff you mentioned, Lindy….yeah totally graphic art.

  9. César
    November 27, 2008 /

    Hi prima, how are you? It’s César, your Azorean cousin lol. Could you please tell me what’s the address of Sherry’s blog? Your mom gave it to me by phone this week but there must be something wrong because I can’t get in. If you could please send it to my e-mail, I would be thankfull.
    Hope everything is allrigth with you all. Hope to see you soon. Kisses to Esme…